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		<title>Episode 407: Public vs. Private Personas: Crafting a Novel Based on Historical Figures &#8211; Interview with Leslie Johansen Nack</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Today, I have the pleasure of interviewing Leslie Johansen Nack. We’ll be discussing The Blue Butterfly, A Novel of Marion Davies, a historical fiction novel about Marion Davies and the burgeoning Hollywood scene in the 1920s. Have you signed up to be a DIY MFA Radio Insider yet? This is an exciting new monthly newsletter,...  <a class="excerpt-read-more" href="https://diymfa.com/podcast/episode-407-leslie-johansen-nack/" title="Read Episode 407: Public vs. Private Personas: Crafting a Novel Based on Historical Figures &#8211; Interview with Leslie Johansen Nack">Read more &#187;</a></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Have you signed up to be a DIY MFA Radio Insider yet? This is an exciting new monthly newsletter, especially for our podcast listeners. Every month, you’ll get an email from our podcast producer with recaps of the most recent episodes, a curated Listening List of episodes on a particular theme, and other fun goodies we only share via email. Best of all, it’s free to join! The theme for April is Picture Books, and you can become an insider by signing up with your email at <a href="https://diymfa.com/diy-mfa-radio-insiders-podcast-newsletter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">diymfa.com/insiders</a>.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">In this episode Leslie Johansen Nack and I discuss:</h3>



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<li>Why she leaned into fiction for this project as opposed to writing a biography.</li>



<li>Her research process and how she chose which scenes to fictionalize.</li>



<li>How she balanced writing about the public and private personas of her characters.</li>
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<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Plus, her #1 tip for writers.</h4>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">About Leslie Johansen Nack</h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Leslie Johansen Nack’s debut, <em>Fourteen, A Daughter’s Memoir of Adventure, Sailing, and Survival</em> received five indie awards, including the 2016 Finalist in Memoir at the Next Generation Indie Book Award. She lives in San Diego and enjoys sailing, hiking, and reading.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Before she started writing, she raised two children, ran a mechanical engineering business with her husband, took care of her aging mother, and dreamed of retirement when she could write full-time. She did everything late in life, including getting her degree in English Literature from UCLA at age thirty-one.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You can find her on <a href="https://www.lesliejohansennack.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">her website</a> or follow her on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lesliejohansennack" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/leslie_nack" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/Lesliejohansennack/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a>.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">The Blue Butterfly, A Novel of Marion Davies</h3>


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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">New York 1915, Marion Davies is a shy eighteen-year-old beauty dancing on the Broadway stage when she meets William Randolph Hearst and finds herself captivated by his riches, passion, and desire to make her a movie star. Following a whirlwind courtship, she learns through trial and error to live as Hearst’s mistress when a divorce from his wife proves impossible. A baby girl is born in secret in 1919 and they agree to never acknowledge her publicly as their own. In a burgeoning Hollywood scene, she works hard making movies while living a lavish partying life that includes a secret love affair with Charlie Chaplin. In late 1937, at the height of the depression, Hearst wrestles with his debtors and failing health, when Marion loans him $1M when nobody else will. Together, they must confront the movie that threatens to invalidate all of Marion’s successes in the movie industry: Citizen Kane.</p>



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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2022 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Today, Lori is interviewing Jody Hadlock. They’ll be talking about The Lives of Diamond Bessie, a haunting tale of betrayal and redemption inspired by a true story. Have you signed up to be a DIY MFA Radio Insider yet? This is an exciting new monthly newsletter especially for our podcast listeners. Every month, you’ll get...  <a class="excerpt-read-more" href="https://diymfa.com/podcast/episode-404-jody-hadlock/" title="Read Episode 404: How to Turn Historical Figures into Characters for Your Novel &#8211; Interview with Jody Hadlock">Read more &#187;</a></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Today, Lori is interviewing Jody Hadlock. They’ll be talking about <em>The Lives of Diamond Bessie</em>, a haunting tale of betrayal and redemption inspired by a true story.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Have you signed up to be a DIY MFA Radio Insider yet? This is an exciting new monthly newsletter especially for our podcast listeners. Every month, you’ll get an email from our podcast producer with recaps of the most recent episodes, a curated Listening List of episodes on a particular theme, and other fun goodies we only share via email. Best of all, it’s free to join!&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The theme for April is Picture Books, and you can become an insider by signing up with your email at <a href="https://diymfa.com/diy-mfa-radio-insiders-podcast-newsletter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">diymfa.com/insiders</a>.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">In this episode Jody Hadlock and Lori discuss:</h3>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The research process and how to blend primary and secondary sources.</li><li>Why finding the right point of view is so important to the writing process.</li><li>What role context plays in writing about the past and how to integrate it into your plot.</li></ul>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">About Jody Hadlock</h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After studying journalism at Texas A&amp;M University, Jody Hadlock was a television news reporter and anchor in Bryan-College Station, Texas; Charleston, South Carolina; and San Antonio, Texas. She now lives near Fort Worth with her husband. For several years Jody served on the board of directors of North Texas Special Needs Assistance Partners (SNAP), a nonprofit dedicated to ensuring adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities live the fullest lives possible in their communities. <em>The Lives of Diamond Bessie</em> is her first novel.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You can find her on <a href="https://www.jodyhadlock.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">her website</a> or follow her on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/jodyhadlockauthor" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jodyhadlock/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21253454.Jody_Hadlock" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Goodreads</a>.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">The Lives of Diamond Bessie</h3>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Inspired by a true story….</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Pregnant out of wedlock, sixteen-year-old Annie Moore is sent to live at a convent for fallen women. When the nuns take her baby, Annie escapes, determined to find a way to be reunited with her daughter. But few rights or opportunities are available to a woman in the 1860s, and after failing to find a respectable job, she resorts to prostitution in order to survive.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As a highly sought-after demi-mondaine, Annie—now Bessie—garners many expensive gifts from her admirers and eventually meets and marries the son of a wealthy jeweler, a traveling salesman with a gambling problem. With her marriage, she believes her dream of returning to proper society has finally come true. She’s proven wrong when she suffers the ultimate betrayal at the hands of the man she thought would be her salvation. But Bessie doesn’t let her story end there.&nbsp;</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Set against the backdrop of the burgeoning women’s rights movement, <em>The Lives of Diamond Bessie</em> is a haunting tale of betrayal and redemption that explores whether seeking revenge is worth the price you might pay.</p>



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